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• Kai Janson commented  ·  July 26, 2011 08:28  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Hi Mickaël,

  I understand. It would be awesome to get a one-stop-solution for a really scalable XMPP server that could cover all that. The question that ProcessOne asked was, "How can we improve OneTeam Desktop?". Those were my responses.

  Please understand that I am not trying to nit-pick or being a pest, I am just trying to spawn some ideas to get a really great product that could be helpful to millions of users.

  The basic idea was taken from 37signals' products, but they lack the interoperability I would be looking for.

  I would love to have one application that includes chat, document sharing and makes team work a lot easier. Currently, the situation of team working looks like this (as you know for sure):

  Scenario: A team member works from home
  * Start iChat/Adium/gtalk or similar
  * Start email to communicate with team member for document sharing
  * If one wants to share a file with one person, one sends a file to one person at a time.
  * If one wants to share a file with more than one person, one sends an email to many people
  * If a person joins the chat later, files need to be resent to the newly joined chat partner, time is lost
  * If a file needs to be looked at a webcast might need to be added. Extra software or dependencies.
  * If a file needs to be edited in a team event (i.e. catastrophic events, …) then what?
  * If someone is on a mobile device (iPhone, iPad, …) then what?

  I could go on and explain a lot more. But I am sure why I am turning towards ProcessOne for this, right? I do believe that you have the expertise and probably the interest to put something great out there.

  The scenario described happens way too many times that I cannot stop thinking about it.

  Thank you for reading!

  Sincerely,
  —Kai

• AdminMickaël Rémond (CEO, ProcessOne) commented  ·  July 26, 2011 06:24  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Kai,
  I think Nyco meant there is *no* XMPP protocol for all these.

• Kai Janson commented  ·  July 22, 2011 11:31  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Nyco,

  really? What is the name of the XEP that covers all that?

• AdminNyco (PM, ProcessOne) commented  ·  July 21, 2011 06:23  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  That would be great! But as far as I know, there is such XEP that covers all these needs...

• Kai Janson commented  ·  July 21, 2011 06:10  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  A text editor with no formatting is like to have a chat within a chat..?!
  The idea would be to have something scalable whiteboard app.

  Other whiteboard apps do doodling, others do text but if you want to have it
  all, you've got to run different apps at once. Not the idea of a clean focussed desktop environment.

  I think I am thinking that once you've got a chat you could do basically anything.
  Let's go crazy: Text, doodle, video, sound, document sharing. See what I mean?
  Realistically, all would be great in ONE chat server/client but I also understand that it is
  quite a bit to ask for. On the other hand, it would be a great enhancement for your product since nobody else has features like that.

  What do you think?
  —Kai

• AdminNyco (PM, ProcessOne) commented  ·  July 21, 2011 00:31  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  As far as I know, there is no rock-solid XEP on XMPP that would help.

  That would be coding from scratch a complete word processing software.

  What about just starting with a simple text editor with no formatting?

• Kai Janson commented  ·  July 20, 2011 11:30  ·  Flag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Hi Nyco,

  About the protocol, I would think XMPP but I think that's secondary at
  least on our end.
  We would be interested in a whiteboard that could be shared amoung our
  users and where everyone
  can type text, add doodles and insert graphical documents. It would
  be great to also share documents that way.

  I know it sounds like a big request, but if not you guys, who else
  could build something real enterprise?
  Since you're using Erlang … it's not impossible. :)

  Thank you very much!
  —Kai